SreeNarayanaGuru

[manu]

What guru means this "One caste, one religion, one god"

is it like One caste - ezhava ?
One religion - Hindu ?
One God - ?

[prasadjbp]

Human beings are one and same regardless of their caste or creed. God also is one and the same regardless to what name he is addressed.

[gopu]

manu,

please go through the words said by sreenarayan guru

Jati Mimamsa: A critique of caste
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Man’s humanity marks out the human kind
Even as bovinity proclaims a cow.
Brahminhood and such are not thus-wise;
None do see this truth, alas!

Within a species, is it not, that offspring truly breed?
The society of man thus viewed, to a single caste belongs.

Of the human species is even a Brahman born, as is the Pariah too,
Where is difference then in caste as between man and man?
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Let me share my thoughts with U...
religon is a culture...and ...we are livng in that culture.
humanbeings caste is the human kind.
In ancient india the peoples are divided in to 4...
brahminh,Keshthriya,Vyshya and shudhra..but those are not based on the caste wht u meat...but it is based on the their living style...poples are intrested in different way of life...
there is no caste like bhramin or any other.....
then about GOD! if we travell throuhg each and every holy books all will say one god..

as like prasad said "God also is one and the same regardless to what name he is addressed".

[manu]

then where from ezhava caste came?..

i mean to say.. i am also ezhava.. but i dont know where from my casete came.. do you ?

[gopu]

then where from ezhava caste came?..

Etymologically, the word Ezhava or Thiyya can be traced to many words. The dominant theory is one that suggests a Sri Lankan and hence Buddhist connection. Ezhavas are supposedly descendants of Buddhists (from Sri Lanka or emissaries from the Magadha empire) and local converts

visit...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezhava

[gopu]

i am also ezhava.. :

how you can say that ?
how you came to know that ?

[gopu]

manu,

Dr Sugathan given a very good explanation on "caste" in one caste. This is relevant when some people are explaining "One Caste, One Religion, One God" as if Guru believed in caste and religion!

" One Caste, One Religion, One God for Man " is the most important message of Guru. Unless explained well people will not understand the greatness of Guru. Guru defined the word 'jaathi' or caste as 'species ' . All human beings belong to the species " Homo Sapiens " and so all are one caste. People should not be discriminated on the basis of religion, nationality etc. Guru did not belong to any religion. All religions were same to him

[sugathan]

Narayanaguru has expressed his opinion on caste (jaathi) in two poems, JAATHI NIRNAYAM ( 5 stanzas) and JAATHI LEKSHANAM ( 10 stanzas).
1. Manushyaanaam manushyathvam jaathir
gowthvam gavaam yathaa.
Na brahmnaadir asya evam
haa thathvam vetthi koapi na
Meaning: Man's jaathi ( species) is manushyathvam ( homo sapiens). Guru wants the word jaathi to be taken as equivalent to species. He had not studied biology but talked as a biologist. No wonder, even Buddha, talked like a biologist.

Guru is simply repeating what Buddha said. ( Buddha was the first advaithi. His advaitham is known as DHAARMIKA advaitham. Sankaraachaaryar, known as Buddha in disguise or pracchanna buddhan, is the second advaithi - his advaitham is known as vaijnaanika advaitham. Narayanaguru is known as the praayogika advaithi).

In species man is "homo sapiens", just like the cow known as "bos taurus" in species.
(Gowthvam = Bos taurus. gavaam = for Cow).
Biologists divide living beings into plants and animals first. Then into phyla (divisions), classes, orders, families, genus and finally into species. There is no division beyond species. Further division is unscientific. Buddha and Guru were scientists.

Na brahmanaadi....... Names brahmana, kshathriya etc are not denoting species. So they are not jaathi. Alas, nobody knows this (scientific truth).

(To be continued )

[sugathan]

Ezhavan and Theeyan mean ' srilankan'.
Simhaladweepam was the old name of Srilanka. Simhalam became Eezham through seehalam, ceylon, seelam, eelam, eezham. Eezhavan is Srilankan. Dweepam is island. Malayalam and Thamizh pronounciation of dweepam (dweep) is theev. Dweepan or Theevan is islander, i.e., Srilankan. Theeyan is a corrept form of theevan. In Logan's manual and in old documents, 'theevan' is seen. As per the rule in linguistics, of v becoming y after ee, this change is explained.

Both Eezhavan and Theeyan mean Srilankan. It does not mean that they migrated from srilanka. Jonakan means Greek. Muslims of Kerala are known as Jonakar. It does not mean that all of them migrated from Greece. We are called Srilankans
(Eezhavas/Theeyas) , because of some Srilankan connection. Most likely it is a Buddhist connection. We must be the people who got converted into th ereligion of Srilankans.

[manu]

Yes , we have the buddhist and and tamil link, how come we become the backward caste in kerala ??
where these Nair and the Nambhoothris came ??